I hardly have any knowledge about this group to be honest, but I will say that I cannot support "Animal Rights Activists" who use improper methods to achieve their goals, nor do I believe that they should be labelled as "terrorists." Our politicians like to label everything as "terrorism" because they care only about profits.
I wouldn't trust organizations like PETA or Greenpeace, but if any chance that the AFL does things for the better unlike these two, then maybe there's a reason I can sympathize with them.
If we are trespassing, then so were the American soldiers who broke down the gates of Hitler's death camps. If we are thieves, then so were the members of The Underground Railroad who freed the slaves from the South. And if we are vandals, then so were those who destroyed forever the gas chambers of Buchenwald and Auschwitz." Animal liberation front
People keep whining about how ALF hurts terrorists, er, people. How do they think slavery ended? The slaves FOUGHT and KILLED other humans to be free. Alf is the same.
Not to mention many cures by natural communities are hidden from the public by the animal-killers so they can make more money. After all, sick/dead people with cancer = $$$ in their eyes. Read the books by Dr. Lenkei and World Without Cancer for more info.
The possibility of them having 'close ties' has nothing at all to do with it. The fact of the matter is Peta and the ALF are not one in the same, PETA puts down a ton of animals rather than adopting them out, the alf does not. PETA is an centralized organization the ALF is not. supporters of the alf are considered 'terrorist' because they want change. Not because they are causing terror, they are considered to be terrorist because they take direct action and because of this the government is loosing money, not because they are directly harming or frightening others.
First off, it isn't a "possibility," They DO have ties to PETA. This is an indisputable FACT. You're right, The ALF isn't really organized per se, but that does not change the fact that they have indeed harmed others financially, possibly even bodily.
Actually The ALF doesn't think it's bad to actually harm people if they felt it was justifiable. [link]
They haven't really hurt any one yet. The key word is "yet" If they had the suspicion that someone was treating animals horribly, they would hurt that person.
I never said it wasn't a fact, i just said it was irrelevant they are not one in the same.
i will not disagree that they have harmed people financially, because they have, and they seem to condone the destruction of property used to harm animals.
I read the link but perhaps i am missing the part where the ALF condones violence on a human.
The ALF does not condone violence on any sentient being, infact that's what they are all about. They don't want harm inflicted on ANY sentient being which includes people.
"a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy".They want all animals (including us) to be able to live without being hurt or without having something to fear.
That said even if a a supporter of the alf harmed someone that's not to say all those apart of it think it's right.
Think of it this way, let's say one who is pro-life, kills someone who has had an abortion, because they believe it's right, does this mean that everyone who is pro life is a murderer or believes murder is justified under said circumstances? No of course not. It's similar with the alf, it's leaderless, if one person who supports it acts out, it just defines that individual, not the alf as a whole.
And the ALF HAS had suspicion that someone was mistreating animals, and for the most part the animals get rescued, property that is used to hurt animals is destroyed and no human are hurt.
Here, let me site some of the paragraphs from the "Ecoterror and Violence: Targeting Humans" section.
"Threats of violence like these have become a troubling trend in the ecoterror movement. Although no one has yet been injured in a domestic attack, the language of movement activists suggests that harming those perceived as responsible for animal or environmental abuse may be seen as justifiable."
One example of the above paragraph is made here: "An anonymous e-mail claiming responsibility for the incident said that activists had used a 10-pound ammonium nitrate bomb 'strapped with nails.' Although the building sustained minimal damage, the e-mail warned that 'we will now be doubling the size of every device we make' and that 'customers and their families are considered legitimate targets.' 'We gave all the customers the chance, the choice, to withdraw their business from HLS,' the e-mail said. "Now you all will have to reap what you have sown….You never know when your house, your car even, might go boom….Or maybe it will be a shot in the dark."
This bombing took place in Pleasanton California.
Further down the article reveals that the ALF, and subsidiaries of ALF, have indeed injured people or threaten to do so:
"In England, ecoterrorists have already committed several acts of violence. These include:
During the 1990s, offshoots of ALF like the "Justice Department" and the "Animal Rights Militia" injured several people using letter-bombs.
In 1998, the "Animal Rights Militia" threatened to kill 10 scientists if Barry Horne, who was sentenced to 18 years in prison for waging a 1994 firebombing campaign that caused £3 million in damage to stores in England, died while on a hunger strike. Horne eventually discontinued the strike after 68 days. In November 2001, he died of liver failure in prison at the age of 49.
In a 1999 attack, a British reporter who had infiltrated ALF the year before with a hidden camera - capturing footage of ALF UK spokesperson Robin Webb supplying a bomb-making manual and suggesting a target to activists - was abducted by a number of men. They branded the letters ALF on his back.
In February, 2001, SHAC activist David Blenkinsop and two other masked assailants severely beat HLS's managing director Brian Cass with bats in England; a passer-by who interceded was sprayed in the face with tear gas. Kevin Kjonaas responded to the incident by saying, "I don't shed any tears for Brian Cass. He is responsible for 500 animals agonizing and dying every day at Huntingdon."
In the U.S., threats of physical violence against humans have not yet been realized, though they increasingly accompany radical activism:
In an intended act of violence in 1999, 80 university researchers received threatening letters booby-trapped with razor blades. One of the letters, sent to a Harvard researcher, said, "You have until autumn 2000 to release all your primate captives and get out of the vivisection industry. If you do not heed our warning, your violence will be turned back upon you." The "Justice Department" claimed responsibility for the mailing.
In 2002, after ELF claimed responsibility for an arson attack on a U.S. Forest Service research facility in Irvine, Pennsylvania (causing more than $700,000 in damage), it issued a communiqué suggesting a willingness to take action:
While innocent life will never be harmed in any action we undertake, where it is necessary, we will no longer hesitate to pick up the gun to implement justice, and provide the needed protection for our planet that decades of legal battles, pleading, protest, and economic sabotage have failed so drastically to achieve.
In July 2004, Jerry Vlasak, a forty-six-year-old heart surgeon from Los Angeles, was banned from entering Britain to attend a conference held by SHAC-UK and SPEAK, an anti-vivisection group, for remarks he made to an audience at an animal rights conference in Los Angles in 2003. Vlasak said that the assassination of scientists working in biomedical research would save millions of animals' lives. "I think violence is part of the struggle against oppression. If something bad happens to these people [animal researchers], it will discourage others. It is inevitable that violence will be used in the struggle and that it will be effective."
Vlasak, who is a member of the Animal Defense League, a radical animal rights group that carries out various direct actions, including home demonstrations, also reportedly said, "I don't think you'd have to kill too many. I think for five lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives." Although he was not allowed to attend the conference, Vlasak addressed the gathering via video link.
Given the loose structure of ecoterrorist groups, there is little to restrain an anonymous cell, or activist, from committing an act of physical violence against another person."
since the movement is getting bigger, it is only a matter of time before someone in the ALF or ELF or anything else does something stupid and kills someone. In fact, they almost have from the looks of these findings.
Also, you said "for the most part" Are you insinuating that maybe the ALF HAS actually killed some animals by accident?
Those "terrorists" are responsible for creating life-saving vaccines and medicines, as well as make sure that that makeup and hair dye you wear doesn't make you keel over from toxic ingestion. They do it for a justifiable reason like everyone else. AKA "The greater good". You might have heard it. Besides, it's not like they do it to white tigers and pandas or some shit. They do it to animals that mate so fast that they were meant for slaughter either way. Doesn't fucking matter if it's via lab testing.
I can tell you now that they won't stop because of a bunch of brainwashed cult followers, so why don't you start doing something about prisoners to where they're receiving the cage and needle, eh? We have brains. It's time we start using them.
Ideologies such as their fierce sense of patriotism and bringing a nation up from ashes for a common goal. Not the "fffffffffff i haet jewz" bullshit. All that went wrong with the Nazis is that they wanted someone to blame just like the English blamed them for WWI. They had every right to be pissed; they just got pissed at the wrong people and there's 3 groups of people you shouldn't have fucked with at that time: Soviets, Americans, and Germans. If you ask me, it was the Allies of WWI that are to blame for WWII.
Everyone in the world needs to see a doctor, smartass. But that isn't happening, is it? And who are you to call me a hypocrite to tell me to see a damn doctor when they use medicines created due to animal testing? Like I said before, we all have brains. Let's start using them for once, shall we?
And who are you to call me a hypocrite to tell me to see a damn doctor when they use medicines created due to animal testing?
Um, dude? Many docs are against animal testing. -_- Besides, I said you were a hypocrite because you are ok with taking others their lives but when somebody wants to take your own, it's "sooo bad" all of a sudden?
Like I said before, we all have brains. Let's start using them for once, shall we?
Terrorist groups focus on killing and exploiting other people. The ALF has never killed or even hurt a human being, their main objective is to damage businesses that exploit animals and provide the animals with freedom and loving homes and a life they deserve. I wish haters would do some fucking research instead of parroting what every other fuck wit like them incorrectly assumes.
Fight fire with fire and we will only get fire in return, but to make an omlete you gotta break some eggs. All revolutionaries are not welcomed by society to start with, but sometimes, like for animal rights, its one that need to continue.
I must say I really think things will change maybe not dramaticly in our life times but definatly the ball has started rolling so to speak, lots of young people are sympathetic to the animal liberation cause and the more public support the better, thats the only way to win this war...
Fist in the air, Viva le Revolution!
Patitience and persistance... if we get stopped one way, find another...